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- Subject: Emily Postnews answers your questions on how to create a new alt group
- Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.answers,news.answers
- From: wharris@cse.uta.edu (William T Harris)
- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 03:43:59 GMT
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- Archive-name: alt-hierarchies/emily-alt-advice
- version: 2.0
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- (posted monthly)
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- Version 1 by Billy Harris (wharris@tauceti.uta.edu)
- Version 2 by Billy Harris and Tim Pierce (twpierce@unix.amherst.edu)
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- Send comments, suggestions, and criticisms to wharris@tauceti.uta.edu
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- EMILY POSTNEWS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS ON HOW TO CREATE A NEW ALT GROUP
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- 1. I want to create a new alt group. How do I start?
-
- For one thing, make sure you don't talk about it on alt.config.
- The only people there are tyrannical, embittered news
- administrators who don't like anything that anyone does, so don't
- even bother.
-
- You also need to think of a good name for your group.
- Use this handy checklist in choosing a worthwhile alt name:
-
- * Use as many periods as possible, for seperating words or even
- syllables. This is the most useful yardstick for measuring a
- newsgroup's importance; the more periods, the merrier!
-
- * Don't hide your group among the others that are already there;
- create a new hierarchy if you possibly can. Using the existing
- namespace is just no fun. This may seem to be in conflict with
- the rule above (maximize periods) but there's nothing to stop you
- from creating a new hierarchy and seven or eight sub-hierarchies
- at the same time.
-
- * Repeat words for emphasis. For example, alt.flame.joe.blow is
- clearly an inferior choice to alt.flame.joe.blow.die.die.die or,
- better, alt.flame.joe.blow.die.die.die.NOW.NOW.NOW.YES.YES.YES!!
- Both of these attract more attention than the first. (Also note
- the capital letters and exclamation points -- these are extra
- neat. See below for infomation on how to handle pesky system
- managers who might complain about them.)
-
- Beware, however, of creating a newsgroup name that is too
- descriptive of its content. Then people can look at the name and
- tell what the group will discuss. Random strangers might join your
- group. What you want is a private discussion forum where you can
- exchange inside jokes. Hence, a better name might be
- alt.flame.jbdddNNNYYY. (Insert periods at will to improve the
- name.) For maximal obscurity, choose an unrelated hierarchy under
- which to start the group: alt.sci or alt.comp, for example.
-
- And remember the maxim of alt: alt.fan is always a good place for
- *any* newsgroup.
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- 2. Okay, I've decided to name my group
- alt.fan.flame.tv.my.really.k00l.froup. What do I do now?
-
- Create the group by sending the appropriate control message
- (look in the "control" newsgroup for examples). Since news
- administrators don't care about their jobs (it's all a sham,
- actually), they don't have time to read long control messages,
- so there's no need to put any effort into writing this message.
- Just say, "Please create alt.fan.flame.tv.my.really.k00l.froup."
- Above all, you certainly don't need to justify its existence;
- that's not needed until later. (see Question 7, part B).
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- 3. This newsgroup has been around for about three days, and it
- rocks!! How can I move it to the rec hierarchy?
-
- Post a call for discussion for your group in news.announc.newgroups.
- (But don't check news.announce.newusers for information on how to
- do so. That's boring.) In fact, you may wish to do this as soon
- as you have a good name for it. The discussion period should last
- about a month, and you definitely want the voting period to coincide
- with steps 5 and 6 below, so timing is important here.
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- 4. Somebody told me that my newsgroup is only on 4% of news sites!
- What should I do to correct this heinous injustice?
-
- Alert the media! It's a conspiracy.
-
- Subscribe to alt.config and post a message complaining about
- the low propagation of alt.blah.blah. You should post a sharp
- criticism of the conspiracy of system administrators who have
- nothing better to do than think of ways to sabotage your news group.
- You should piss moan about the terrible propagation of your group
- and about the severe disservice these system administrators are
- doing to Usenet in general and to you in particular. Refer to
- Question 5 for more detailed information on good rhetoric to
- use in this post.
-
- Alternately, you can post a message pleading and begging news
- administrators to carry alt.blah.blah. A message such as
- "Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please
- carry alt.blah.blah. Pretty please? With sugar on top? The entire
- Internet community will thank you if you do and we'll all send you
- money. Pretty please? Please?" should work nicely.
-
- For even better results, post both types of messages.
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- 5. Someone complained about my group! What should I do?
-
- Pay no attention. Adminstrators are just godless Fascists.
-
- The most important thing to remember when discussing new alt groups
- on alt.config -- which you shouldn't do anyway -- is that news
- administrators are completely impervious to logic. It does no good
- to reason with them, so don't try.
-
- Suggested discussion topics:
-
- You're just an evil Communist!
- This is alt! I can do whatever I want to!
- Why should I listen to you? Just because you're a news
- administrator? You're obviously not having any fun.
- Well, you're wrong because I know all about how this works.
- Ppppbpbpth!
- If you cared about your users, you'd carry this group.
-
- Keep in mind that the administator probably did *NOT* ask his users
- whether or not they wished to read this group. Demand that he
- call all 500 of his users to find out if any one of them wants to
- read your group.
-
- If everyone is conspiring against you, just go on to the next step.
- Railroading proposals through is the alt way of life!
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- 6. Joe Blow still won't carry my group! What should I do now?
-
- Name calling is quite productive. If you can't think of any
- good names, try these:
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- Fascist
- Bigot
- Control freak
- Mind controlling PC scum
- Fundamentalist right-wing fanatic
-
- Be sure to mention Joe Blow's name several times in the letter, so
- everyone will remember exactly who you are talking about. After
- other system administrators see your vicious post about Joe Blow,
- they will add your group so that you will not similarly insult them.
-
- Finally, at the end of your post, put a line similar to: "P.S. to
- all: Don't forget to vote for blah.blah by next Weds" Thus, while
- alt.blah.blah is fresh on everyone's minds, you can attract more
- votes for (non-alt) blah.blah. Remember that you need to get at
- least 100 votes to create a non-alt group, so every vote counts. By
- including this PS on a note about alt.blah.blah, you will attract
- several voters who otherwise would not have participated.
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- 7a. All right!! My group passed the mainstream vote!!
-
- Congratulations; you have proved the worthiness of your topic.
- System Administrators now have no excuse not to carry your alt group,
- and you can say that publicly. After all, without an alt group,
- how can people cross-post the same article to both groups? How
- would people be confused about which topics go where?
- Clearly, an alt group is needed. Every news group should have a
- corresponding alt group!
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- 7b. Awww.. My group failed the mainstream vote. And we were so close.
-
- Some people would suggest that you say something logical, such as:
- "My topic has a lot of interest but not quite enough for the
- mainstream Usenet. Therefore I recommend an alt group."
- The problem is that this statement makes sense. As stated earlier,
- logic is useless against system administrators. If you absolutely
- insist, then you can gather together all of the reasons you didn't
- use before and post them to alt.config. My advice, however, is
- to follow the suggestions given for Question 7c.
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- 7c. I can't believe it! Usenet voters didn't like my group at all!
-
- What?? Obviously Joe Blow (who criticized your alt group) has
- formed a conspiracy against you. This is the only reason for
- the skewed vote, since we both know your group is the best thing
- to happen to Usenet since alt.sex.swedish.Bork.Bork.Bork.
-
- Thus, you should post a message explaining the situation to everyone
- who thought the vote was legitamate. You should accuse Joe Blow
- of ballot stuffing, forgery, bias, murder, and any other crimes
- you can think of. Point out that Joe Blow has a well-known,
- long-standing personal vendetta against you and spent 8-12 hours
- per day trying to sabotage your vote.
-
- Something that can also work is to blame the outcome on the
- incompetence of the vote taker. Sometimes this works even if YOU
- are the vote-taker; accuse yourself of incompetence and demand that
- someone volunteer to collect votes for the also demanded revote of
- blah.blah.
-
- Finally, conclude your message by including a line such as:
- "Because that bigot Joe Blow's dictatorial ballot-stuffing
- forgeries have killed blah.blah, you are morally obligated to
- support alt.blah.blah. If you don't, you are just as guilty as Joe
- Blow. P.S. everyone please mail to root@somewhere demanding a
- revote of blah.blah due to Joe Blow's meddling"
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- 8. I followed all your steps, and my propagation is close to .01%. Now
- what should I do?
-
- You should post one more time to alt.config saying "FINE! DON'T CARRY
- ALT.BLAH.BLAH. SEE IF I CARE, YOU $%^W&@ @#(*$^&@ DICTAROIAL
- POND WATER SCUM!" You may substitute whichever expletives seem
- appropriate. To emphasize that this message is a spontaneous outburst,
- you should add few typos caused by your fingers slamming on the
- keyboard: "FINEW! DON"T SCARRI ALT>BLAH>BLAH!!!! SEE IF I GIVE A
- FLYING W@$ ABOUT YUO O|T YOUR @#)$ SITES! JUST CRAW<: BACK TUI
- WHEREVEER IT IS TYOU DICTATORTEIAL BIGOTED SYS AMDIN SCUMM HANG
- TYOUT AND LAUG|HJT AT YOUR HOOLWO VICTORY>"!"!!"
-
- With that final message, you can sit back and relax, safe in the
- knowledge that you have set a new record low for propagation of
- alt.blah.blah: 0!
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